Showing posts with label atheism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label atheism. Show all posts

Tuesday, October 31, 2017

Roommate hung up pictures of Jesus christ on our refrigerator. How would you deal with this situation? atheism

So today I walked into my kitchen and noticed there are two flashy but small (business card sized) pictures of Jesus on our fridge. I have several roommates so I don't know who hung them up. But my first reaction was to feel annoyed and to think that it is kind of presumptuous to assume that everyone in the house would want to see religious imagery every day.

My SO and I were both raised religious and we have bad experiences with it being shoved down our throats so neither of us really want to look at that every day. I personally find most religious imagery kind of creepy. I also think I will be embarrassed to have it up when friends come over.

I am debating if I should ask them to put it in their room or if I should just hang up some atheist stuff on the fridge next to it and not say anything. What would you do?



Submitted October 31, 2017 at 01:06PM by baller_unicorn http://ift.tt/2ig9OVV atheism

Friday, April 14, 2017

The Lord spake unto us, and he sayeth: atheism

Lo, I had to knock up a woman who was either engaged or married or something in order to father myself so that I could kill myself so that I could resurrect myself so that I could trick myself into letting you all into Heaven instead of following my original plan, which was to cast you all into eternal damnation for the imperfections that I built into each and every one of you.

In celebration of some important parts of that story, tomorrow night we will take perishable foods out of the refrigerator and hide them overnight at room temperature. Also, animal shaped chocolate.

That is all. Happy Easter.



Submitted April 15, 2017 at 03:42AM by iamkuato http://ift.tt/2pkoq9k atheism

Sunday, March 12, 2017

Does this argument for the existence of God have a name? And what is the counter argument? atheism

Hello fellow atheists.

 

I was doing my homework and refreshing my memory/educating myself about the various arguments and counter arguments about the existence of God, and ended up on http://ift.tt/1pNx3SQ where I stumbled on an argument I'm not familiar with. I don't know it's name and because of that can't seem to successfully find a counter argument.

 

So I decided to ask here for some help. To me it sounds similar to the Transcendental Argument, but not really. Can you identify it? I will copy the section I'm talking about below. It comes from this page: http://ift.tt/1rGJ9wU

 

Thx a bunch in advance!

 


Another inconsistency occurs when atheists attempt to be rational. Rationality involves the use of laws of logic. Laws of logic prescribe the correct chain of reasoning between truth claims. For example, consider the argument: “If it is snowing outside, then it must be cold out. It is snowing. Therefore, it is cold out.” This argument is correct because it uses a law of logic called modus ponens. Laws of logic, like modus ponens, are immaterial, universal, invariant, abstract entities. They are immaterial because you can’t touch them or stub your toe on one. They are universal and invariant because they apply in all places and at all times (modus ponens works just as well in Africa as it does in the United States, and just as well on Friday as it does on Monday). And they are abstract because they deal with concepts.

 

Laws of logic stem from God’s sovereign nature; they are a reflection of the way He thinks. They are immaterial, universal, invariant, abstract entities, because God is an immaterial (Spirit), omnipresent, unchanging God who has all knowledge (Colossians 2:3). Thus, all true statements will be governed by God’s thinking—they will be logical. The law of non-contradiction, for example, stems from the fact that God does not deny Himself (2 Timothy 2:13). The Christian can account for laws of logic; they are the correct standard for reasoning because God is sovereign over all truth. We can know some of God’s thoughts because God has revealed Himself to us through the words of Scripture and the person of Jesus Christ.

 

However, the atheist cannot account for laws of logic. He cannot make sense of them within his own worldview. How could there be immaterial, universal, invariant, abstract laws in a chance universe formed by a big bang? Why should there be an absolute standard of reasoning if everything is simply “molecules in motion”? Most atheists have a materialistic outlook—meaning they believe that everything that exists is material, or explained by material processes. But laws of logic are not material! You cannot pull a law of logic out of the refrigerator! If atheistic materialism is true, then there could be no laws of logic, since they are immaterial. Thus, logical reasoning would be impossible!

 

Laws of Logic No one is denying that atheists are able to reason and use laws of logic. The point is that if atheism were true, the atheist would not be able to reason or use laws of logic because such things would not be meaningful. The fact that the atheist is able to reason demonstrates that he is wrong. By using that which makes no sense given his worldview, the atheist is being horribly inconsistent. He is using God’s laws of logic, while denying the biblical God that makes such laws possible.

 

How could there be laws at all without a lawgiver? The atheist cannot account for (1) the existence of laws of logic, (2) why they are immaterial, (3) why they are universal, (4) why they do not change with time, and (5) how human beings can possibly know about them or their properties. But of course, all these things make perfect sense on the Christian system. Laws of logic owe their existence to the biblical God. Yet they are required to reason rationally, to prove things. So the biblical God must exist in order for reasoning to be possible. Therefore, the best proof of God’s existence is that without Him we couldn’t prove anything at all! The existence of the biblical God is the prerequisite for knowledge and rationality. This is called the “transcendental argument for God” or TAG for short. It is a devastating and conclusive argument, one that only a few people have even attempted to refute (and none of them successfully).5

 


EDIT: Trying to make it less of a visual burden.



Submitted March 13, 2017 at 11:36AM by bluespirit442 http://ift.tt/2mhBz04 atheism

Wednesday, June 15, 2016

Sand dollars... Therefore Jesus. atheism

So my family and I visited Destin Florida last week and while we were there we visited a gift shop called Sunsations (or something like that). It was your typical beach wear gift shop, you could buy tee shirts, towels, refrigerator magnets... All the usual souvenir junk. While browsing the souvenirs I saw these little bags of tiny sand dollars hanging off of hooks. Inside the bags was a little card titled "The Legend of the Sand Dollar" being the curious person I am, I pulled the card out to read it in hopes of gaining some useless yet entertaining information or sand dollar factoids of some kind. Instead what I read was some poem about how the sand dollar is a symbol of Jesus and the Easter resurrection. It goes something like this (I copied this text off a website so I didn't have to type the whole poem because... Well I'm lazy, But it's pretty close to what was on the card.)

The Legend of the Sand Dollar

There's a lovely little legend that I would like to tell, of the birth and death of Jesus, found in this lowly shell.

If you examine closely, you'll see that you find here, four nail holes and a fifth one, made by a Roman's spear.

On one side the Easter lily, its center is the star, that appeared unto the shepherds and led them from afar.

The Christmas Poinsettia etched on the other side, reminds us of His birthday, our happy Christmastide.

Now break the center open, and here you will release, the five white doves awaiting, to spread Good Will and Peace.

This simple little symbol, Christ left for you and me, to help us spread His Gospel, through all Eternity.

I am going to try and post a link to the photo I took of it but whenever I do this the mods remove my post because it isn't within the guidelines for images...

Photo of the card: http://ift.tt/25YoWfI



Submitted June 16, 2016 at 04:01AM by jimillett http://ift.tt/1UVHx0F atheism

Tuesday, May 10, 2016

Was tagged in a "Arrogant Atheist Professor" copypasta on facebook. Researched it on the rational wiki and found this: atheism

http://ift.tt/1hB0Flc

"A liberal Muslim homosexual ACLU lawyer professor and abortion doctor was teaching a class on Karl Marx, a known atheist. "Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Marx and accept that he was the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Jesus Christ!"

At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-life Navy SEAL champion who had served 1500 tours of duty and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all military decision made by the United States stood up and held up a rock.

"How old is this rock?"

The arrogant professor smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied "4.6 billion years, you stupid Christian"

"Wrong. It’s been 5,000 years since God created it. If it was 4.6 billion years old and evolution, as you say, is real… then it should be an animal now"

The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Origin of the Species. He stormed out of the room crying those liberal crocodile tears. The same tears liberals cry for the "poor" (who today live in such luxury that most own refrigerators) when they jealously try to claw justly earned wealth from the deserving job creators. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, DeShawn Washington, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a sophist liberal professor. He wished so much that he had a gun to shoot himself from embarrassment, but he himself had petitioned against them!

The students applauded and all registered Republican that day and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. An eagle named "Small Government" flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was read several times, and God himself showed up and enacted a flat tax rate across the country.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of the gay plague AIDS and was tossed into the lake of fire for all eternity.

Semper Fi"

I got a kick out of that.



Submitted May 11, 2016 at 02:48AM by misteratoz http://ift.tt/24J91xW atheism

Wednesday, August 12, 2015

Sam Harris speech at IdeaCity on the dangers of moderates and of accommodation. Why religions are both wrong and bad. (2005) atheism

Sam Harris speech

From: "I believe that there's a diamond as big as my refrigerator buried in my backyard".

To: "I don't want to live in a universe where there isn't a diamond as big as my refrigerator buried in my backyard".



Submitted August 13, 2015 at 03:01AM by Jim-Jones http://ift.tt/1f8CkVz atheism

Monday, June 15, 2015

Religion has driven me away from Facebook. atheism

Opening the Facebook app on my phone is typically like opening the refrigerator for no reason, but more and more I just feel irritated as soon as I open it because it is full of prayer this and prayer that. What this actor said to prove this. I feel like I move further and further away from religion, while those around me seem to ask for more and more miracles.



Submitted June 16, 2015 at 06:37AM by Anibal_Exclusive http://ift.tt/1LbXcsS atheism

Monday, June 1, 2015

God is so good. Ugh. atheism

So I went to my parents church at the request of my mother yesterday. I don't go anymore, but my kids usually do so I can sleep in. What I overheard was just disgusting! A guy there is talking about moving to Texas and the costs of everything associated with moving. He is talking about how he missed the memorial day sales, but with all the flooding he was able to get all new appliances like a refrigerator and washer\dryer 50% off. The man he was taking to then says "God is good". WTF! I guess he means his god caused Texas to flood so this one guy could get 50% off. This is their logic? And they wonder why I don't believe their fairy tales anymore. Sorry for the formatting, I'm on my phone.



Submitted June 01, 2015 at 05:33PM by Fredthemonkey http://ift.tt/1JdRs0U atheism

Tuesday, May 12, 2015

Jeffery atheism

I recently hired this guy named Bob. As soon as I shook his hand and welcomed him aboard. I took him directly to the refrigerator. I showed him my sandwich, and I told him "Do not eat this sandwich. This is my sandwich." I then showed him where his desk was.

Things had been going well, until about 12:30 PM, when I had my lunch break. I went to the refrigerator and my sandwich was gone. I went to Bob's desk and sure enough, the Ziploc baggy with my name on it was lying there, empty on the desk.

I was so mad I gave everyone a pay cut. Including people yet to be hired. When new people came I simply told them about how Bob had eaten my sandwich, and it is their fault too because they were hired after him.

And then I hired a man named Jeffery (Who may or may not have been me wearing a mustache.) Jeffery was the textbook example of an employee. He never lied, he never stole, he went above and beyond...

One day, I realized everyone still had this pay cut, and I thought, "How am I ever going to forgive everyone for my sandwich?" Just then, I noticed a group of people yelling at Jeffery. They were mad at him because of his religious beliefs or something. But they were starting a mob and were taking Jeffery to the roof.

Moments later, I saw his body fly past my window, and I thought to myself, "Yes... yes. This is how I shall forgive my employees. This has saved them. I forgive them. I forgive my employees."

I removed the pay cut (except for my gay employees, people who don't kiss my ass 24/7, people looking at different jobs, etc.) and even gave them all a raise.

On that day, When Jeffery was thrown off of my building... he was thinking about Carole. He was thinking about Steve. He was thinking about all the people who hadn't been hired yet. And he was thinking about you. For that day, friends... that was the day... that Jeffery died for my sandwich.



Submitted May 13, 2015 at 06:16AM by TheElvenKeys http://ift.tt/1PFDi7a atheism

Friday, January 16, 2015

How a Near Death Experience led me to atheism atheism


So I was reading a post on TrueAtheism about the boy who now admits that he made up the story about going to Heaven during a NDE, and one of the comments I read stated that, "No Christian ever has an NDE and sees Allah,". Perhaps not, but I had something sort of like that happen, and I've been wanting to tell my story for a while, so here goes. I will do my best to recall the details as accurately as possible:


My (short) Backstory I was raised in an evangelical Christian family, with a father who was a DTS educated minister. The Bible was shoved down my throat several times a week for the entirety of my childhood and teens. I actually longed for it to be true (prior to reading for myself what a monster Jehovah was), but was conscious of the fact that Jesus never spoke back to me. Distraught by that fact, at age 16 I went on a missions trip to Haiti in a misguided attempt to get closer to God.


I ended up watching in horror as starving voodoo children weren't allowed into the gated compound where we stayed (which had DSL internet, satellite TV, multiple refrigerators, A/C, fruit trees, hot showers, and a million other things that Haitians don't get to experience often). I watched competing religions deny each other food by wasting it on ritual sacrifice or by only giving it to those who "converted". I ended up becoming a secular humanist by the end of the trip and realized that not only was Jesus not working his magic inside of me, he damn sure wasn't intervening in Haiti (unless it was via pure sadism). The moment I realized I was no longer a Christian was huge for me, I could write a thousand words on that event alone, but for brevity's sake I'll get to the point.


I went home and began researching all sorts of world religions that I had previously lumped into the Satanism category (LOL), and ultimately ended up growing and consuming psychedelic mushrooms, which I fancied as a sort of mana, or tool given to mankind as a way to contact the supernatural planes of existence. I was something of a cosmic-consciousness subscriber at this point, and due to an incredible ego-death experience I had whilst tripping, was positive that I knew the truth about what happens after we die. I was a gnostic. God was not a being who intervened in human actions, god was the ocean of consciousness we all return to after our individual raindrops of conscious finish their fall.


The NDE incident Years later in my early twenties I went to an apartment party for a UFC fight. To make a very long story short, I ended up being attacked by a piece of shit with a knife and his much bigger friend. I got cut a few times on my blocking arm at the beginning of the fight, and also got stabbed very superficially in my torso a couple times. I fought these two thug-life pussies in a tiny kitchen for at least two minutes before my friend dragged me out kicking and screaming (I had just acquired a large kitchen knife that I wanted to kill them with).


I lost a lot of blood by the time we got to the hospital. I felt distant from my senses but could still tell my adrenaline was pumping hard and that I had an extreme thirst going on. I remember hearing the woman behind the ER counter tell my friends not to give me the water I was pleading for b/c I'd bleed out faster. She gave my friend a piece of ice to give to me instead, but when my friend turned around and looked at me she shouted, "OMG he's turning grey!" Just as she said those words, I felt myself collapse (I am not sure if I actually fell down, or if I was being loaded onto a gurney).


This is where things got interesting; As I looked up at my friends, my vision became unfocused and my ears perked up in a way that I'd experienced many times before, under the influence of psilocin (the active ingredient of psych shrooms). After a few seconds of this my eyes refocused, and covering the two females who accompanied me was the most intricate, beautiful, psychedelic Valkyrie armor I could possibly imagine. Helmets (no horns), swords, wings, chest plates, etc. I think I was more amazed at that point than confused, but I consciously recognized that the experience felt eerily similar to tripping, albeit a much more detailed and realistic version of it. I have later come to suspect that it was an endogenous release of NN-DMT, although there is no empirical evidence supporting that belief yet.


I was moving now, on the gurney, my face staring up at the ceiling tiles, but it wasn't over. I felt like I was being pulled on. I can't say that I heard a drum beat so much as I felt it (separate from my heartbeat), but it was unmistakably there. And I saw no light in the tunnel nor faces of gods, but I sensed that I was being called to Valhalla, and I had this feeling that if I let go of my consciousness right then I would die; my soul would be transported to the eternal battlefield. I chose to stay. To not lose consciousness. Seconds later I came out of the hallucination with an IV in my arm and no recollection at all of being removed from the gurney.


After thoughts It wasn't hard for me to process what had happened, but in stark contrast to losing my faith during my missions trip experience, this time I did not want to admit or accept the bits of truth I had witnessed, because they shit all over my gnosticism, and so I found it troubling instead of fantastic.


It was/is clear to me that my NDE was a tryptamine-based hallucination (chemicals similar in construct to psilocin, LSD, serotonin, and DMT). I even knew why it was Norse mythology based. I had formed a concept in my head while studying world religions that Vikings who died in battle would be escorted by Valkyries to an afterlife of never ending battle in Valhalla. My brain had projected this while I was bleeding out. Why? Because it slowed my pulse and got my adrenaline to quit pumping. My brain was attempting to save my life b/c it knew I was losing blood, and so it projected what it pulled up as my religion, even though in reality it was just a religion that I had a concept of.


There is lots of debate among people who trip about whether ones experiences while hallucinating are real, meaning they take place in some other plane of the objective universe, or if they are merely fantasies, outward projections of the contents of the subconscious that only take place in subjective reality. This moment was a deciding factor in that debate for me. I did not, do not, and could not accept the laughable premise that Thor and Odin were calling me to Valhalla, so it became clear to me that this was simply a subjective experience. But that made me reconsider my beliefs about my ego-death experience too, b/c the NDE was equally convincing in visual composition and relativity to my preconceived notions about the afterlife.


In the end I came to the only reasonable conclusion I think there is: All of it is subjective. All of it depends on the ideas you fill your mind with, and the set and setting in which you are hallucinating. This is why Muslims see Allah/Mo, why saddhus see Krishna, why Christians see angels or Jesus or whatever.


The only question about any of it that still haunts me is: What if the Valkyries had been angels, and the presence that called to me had been Jesus? Would I have still had the mental fortitude to realize that it was hallucinatory in nature, or would I have taken it as the sign from God that christian-me had psychologically craved for the better part of a decade? I hope it would be the former, but I remember what cognitive dissonance is like I can already imagine the fallacies and circular reasoning it might have revived.


Once I accepted the separation between subjective and objective reality, and came to appreciate the ability of our minds to create subjective realities that appear to be every bit as real as our shared objective reality, I realized that atheism is the most likely answer to the question of god. And after studying the arguments for and against it, I now no longer believe in a soul, either.


That's pretty much it, I'll try to answer any questions y'all have.


TL;DR - Despite growing up Christian I hallucinated Norse mythology during a NDE that was sparked by blood loss from a knife fight. My recognition that it was based on my concept of afterlife being different for those who die in battle led me from gnosticism to atheism.


Edit - Typos







Submitted January 17, 2015 at 03:02AM by Razr_Leaf http://ift.tt/1ApxFCh atheism

Monday, December 29, 2014

I have a response letter to a pastor of my wife's family that I would like to hear your thoughts on... atheism


Alright, here it is. I have not sent it yet. Please fact check me if necessary. The dates were tough to find...


I have some questions and comments in regards to our interactions this past week-- from our night at ____ and within the walls of your church.


The comments and questions that I have are not intended to offend you as a person. I think you are a good man doing the best he can for his family. I simply want to clarify certain things and understand better other claims you made.


It is easy in these topics to read with the intention to disprove what is being read and, ultimately, miss the argument. Any information you provide me I will honestly entertain, whether I accept them or not.


To clarify, I believe people are to be respected to most extents, but opinions, however, should not be immune to disrespect. As Astrophysicist, Carl Sagan, put it, "If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth." I do not respect astrology, scientology, mormonism, islam, and (although I once held great respect for it) christianity anymore than I respect people's beliefs in Big Foot or Unicorns; and I'll be happy to explain why in regards to the relevant questions/ comments I have. As far as my questions are concerned, I ask in earnest effort to find the TRUTH.


Certain claims you've made this past week have concerned me from the perspective of someone who cares deeply about truth, education, and critical thinking... especially in the presence of children. I'll number them and discuss why I am concerned and ask questions where I'm curious...



  1. The resurrection of Jesus Christ is "in the text books"

  2. The resurrection of Jesus Christ is a "Historical Fact"

  3. There are extra-biblical accounts of Christ' resurrection

  4. Muslims have no belief in an afterlife

  5. Philosophy is crap

  6. Non Believers are snagged by the devil; and are ultimately going to burn in hell if they continue in unbelief (Please clarify this point if I've wrongly worded it)


1, 2, and 3: These 3 points can be clustered into one big claim. This is where I have my biggest questions. How do you justify this as a fact? And what extra-biblical accounts? My impression is that most scholars agree that second-hand authors wrote the New Testament 50 - 300 years after Christ's death. Even if they were first-hand accounts written during Christ's lifetime, they would be equally as reliable as the many claims that Mohammed flew to heaven on a winged horse (this ties into points 4 and 5)... or the claims that several people have seen the loch ness monster THEREFORE the loch ness monster's existence is a fact. My guess is that you don't believe in the loch ness monster's existence and the historicity of Mohammed’s flight to heaven on a winged horse because you are not satisfied by the anecdotal claims-- written or unwritten. This is my perspective with Jesus' resurrection. Secondly, I have struggled to find ONE extra-biblical account of Jesus (written during or near his lifetime) in any major historical account that has not been doctored by the early Catholic Church. If you're able, I would love to hear / read about it.


4: This claim may seem trivial and not worth mentioning, but I think it exposes the surface of certain misunderstandings or mistruths. Please let me know if you'd like to clarify your comments. Islam ABSOLUTELY believes in an afterlife: heaven and hell (Quran 30:40 , Quran 2:161-162, Quran 4:52). In fact, the majority of religions have this afterlife perspective of heaven and hell. Most have claims of seeing their gods or demi-gods, claims of healing, claims of divine execution, claims of prophecy, claims of absolute moralities or values, etc. Christianity is NOT UNIQUE in its expression of broad beliefs. All religions, however, require faith-- belief without evidence (Hebrews 11 doesn't hide this definition). This brings me to...


...5 and 6: I want to briefly address my unbelief because it's important that people understand WHY. It's also important for me that people understand what philosophy and science ACTUALLY are because they are created to make the world a better place. For example, since the age of scientific enlightenment (roughly 300 years ago) we've harnessed electricity, created airplanes, cured and prevented diseases, and landed on the moon! Our eyes are even set on Mars by 2030! You can thank science and philosophy for the cell phone, tablet, or laptop from which you're reading this. Before philosophy and science, we spent thousands of years living in caves and fending off wolves.


My transformation from being Christian to atheist started as a subtle one. You mentioned in church, "If you seek it, you will find it." I can't agree more. The problem was that I never sought atheism or anything outside of christianity originally. It started with these questions: If God is omniscient (all-knowing), omnipresent (outside of time and space), omnipotent (all-powerful), and omni-benevolent (all-good)... 1. ... Why did he knowingly create the devil and hell-- the same one that you claim is attacking his created children and deceiving them into hell he created? 2. ... Why would he command his children to slaughter men, women, children, and to take the virgins for themselves throughout Joshua, Numbers, Deuteronomy, etc.? And how is this any different from what ISIS is doing right now? (yeah, I know, it's the old testament, but there isn't a single context in which its okay to kill babies or rape young girls.) 3. ... Why isn't there unanimous agreement on what the "right" christianity is? There are 30,000 denominations within christianity; and there isn't a single topic of agreement (homosexuality, abortion, the trinity, divinity of Christ, death penalty, contraceptives, marijuana, sex, etc...), yet all of them claim to be 100% correct.

4. ... How can we appropriately fit science into the Bible? Specifically, Evolution? I won’t argue Evolution but will be happy to do so another time. As far as the scientific community stands, 99% are in agreement that it is fact—or “theory” by its scientific definition which is rather different from how “theory” is used outside of science. I had many more questions, but this is how it started. I started Internet forums with Christians, read CS Lewis’ Mere Christianity, read David Dark’s The Sacredness of Questioning everything, read Richard Rohr’s Breathing Underwater and Falling Upward, glanced over Timothy Keller’s The Reason for God, prayed and cried for hours at a time, and watched hours upon hours of Christian apologists on YouTube continually disappoint me. There isn’t a single answer that satisfies these questions. “Just have faith…” It wasn’t the devil that snagged me. It was the fact that mine and every other religion in the world asks for unquestioning faith (belief without evidence); and that drastically confused me. Religion is the ONLY area where faith is used as a method of cognitively understanding the world around us. I wouldn’t walk across a freeway with “faith” that I’ll survive because that wont make me any more or less likely to be hit by a car. Nor does having faith that a diamond the size of a refrigerator is buried in my backyard because that doesn’t make the existence of such a diamond any more or less true. Nor does faith in Zeus, Thor, Oden, Krishna, Mohammed, Allah, Jesus, etc. make any of these characters more or less likely to be god. This relates to another problem… how does belief save us? And where’s the logic that says we choose what to believe? If I had a gun to my head right now and the only way to save myself was to believe in leprechauns, I would die. I couldn’t choose to believe in leprechauns EVEN IF I WANTED THAT BELIEF—it’s too ridiculous. The same goes for my belief in Jesus… I couldn't force myself to believe in his divinity even if I wanted to do so. As you can see, the questions kept coming and I felt like the best thing to do was say “I don’t know” rather than pretending I do. It hit me that I would rather be miserable and seek the TRUTH than be happy keeping a delusion. The beauty with science and philosophy is that QUESTIONING EVERYTHING IS ENCOURAGED, not knowing is okay, and making claims without evidence is discouraged and ethically irresponsible. People change their minds EVERYDAY in science and philosophy as new evidence and arguments present themselves… but I never see this in religion or politics. This brings me to my concern… If a god wants to send me to hell despite my best efforts of seeking truth, loving others, and living happily, then he isn’t a god with which I want to be associated. Unbelief isn’t occurring because the devil is at work… I contend that unbelief is occurring because we live in the 21st century where more people can understand philosophy and science. Magic is not anymore a reliable answer for the big questions we all have.







Submitted December 30, 2014 at 07:46AM by cantswiminbullshit http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/2qruhg/i_have_a_response_letter_to_a_pastor_of_my_wifes/ atheism